STUNNING DOUBLE AMBUSH BY AF INTEL IN HOMS REVEALS AMERICAN CRIMINAL CONDUCT; ATTACK ON LATAKIA STILL MUDDLED

HOMS:

If you want proof of American criminal conduct in Syria, look no further than the events of yesterday when a group of ISIS grubs set off from American-occupied Al-Tanf on motorcycles in the direction of the Western Plantations with their goal being to reinforce ISIS positions near Al-Raqqa (via the Abyadh Al-Tuwaynaan Valley) where the other pro-American SDF is located.  Talk about playing two sides against the other!  The ambush was sprung about 30 kms west of Palmyra (Tadmur) by elements of Air Force Intelligence-Special Operations Units.  The terrorist rodents were especially vulnerable on their motorcycles as expertly positioned commandos opened light arms fire at them killing two instantly and forcing another two to wipe out on the road.  The two taken into custody started warbling like nightingales explaining their relationship with American officers at Al-Tanf.

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.437888&lon=38.835554&z=14&m=w&search=al-tanf

The second ambush took place in the area of Al-Furoo’ east of Palmyra by about 70 kms.  There, the terrorists were not so interested in confrontation.  They surrendered to the Security Services commando units and gave up 10 motorcycles, weapons and ammo, 146 rolls of hashish, 14 bags of Captagon which amounted to 10,000+ tablets.  I guess they were going to cater a party. They are now warbling like starlings.

Now that a new prime minister in Iraq is in office, we are hoping the Baghdad government stops affording the U.S. privileged status permitting it to supply and occupy the Al-Tanf base.  The Hashemites in Jordan are a lost cause, but, Iraq is not yet that far gone.  There is still hope that Muqtadaa Al-Sadr and his allies will re-assume their mantles as Iraq’s only truly populist movement.  The U.S. has been truly injured by the fall of Al-‘Abbaadi’s government after so many lobbying efforts – efforts to intervene in Iraqi elections.

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LATAKIA:

The night before yesterday, somebody fired some rockets at a military research-and-development center in Latakia.  Syrian radar picked up the approaching missiles and fired Pantsir anti-missile rockets at them, bringing most down, according to sources in Latakia.  Yet, the atmosphere is still somewhat murky.

That evening, amidst the melee, an Ilyushin aircraft carrying 14 crew members and enlisted men was downed in the Mediterranean near the coast of Syria.  A search and rescue operation is now in progress.

This is what happened.  Nobody was expecting any attack by the Zionist Settler State.  There were no weapons being transferred to HZB from any research center in Latakia City.  The Humaymeem AB was on alert, as usual, but, as I wrote, there were no causes for concern.  A French missile boat was in the international waters outside Syria’s coastline and there was no expectation it would fire at any target, especially where there was a danger of striking Russia’s military.

Russia detects missile launches from French frigate off Syria’s coast in Mediterranean

(Photo:  French Navy)

The French ship was the Auvergne, an Aquitaine Class ship.  If any of you remember your history, it was at Aquitaine (then northwards to Poitier and Tours) where Charles Martel blunted the Umayyad Caliphate’s effort to conquer Europe from Andalusia in 732 AD. Well, anyways, there is a lot of history behind that name.

Zionist military planners noted that the Il-20 aircraft was scheduled to depart Humaymeem at around 5 p.m.  It would be the perfect cover.  The attack on the research center was approved by Prime Minister Mileikowski (a/k/a Netanyhu).  When the Il-20 was in the air, so were 3 F-16s.  The idea was to shadow the transport aircraft and fire at the base.  But, what happened became a nightmare.

Syrian air defense units were not told about the Russian airplane.  When Zionist aircraft appeared on their screens, they perfunctorily fired at the targets.  It is evident from the swift Zionist retreat that there was realization that Syrian air defense missiles could hit the Russian aircraft.  And they did, causing the Ilyushin to crash into the Mediterranean.

Initial Russian reaction was to blame the French who were accused of firing cruise missiles at Latakia even though the “false flag” CW event had not taken place.  This could mean that the CW event was scheduled to take place on Monday, but, that the Turkish-Russian agreement at Socchi aborted that.  It is possible and it is an indication of just how incompetent the French really are.

It is also obvious now that the Kremlin is fuming over this.  Mileikowski constantly crows about how much coordination exists between Russian and Zionist forces in Syria.  This was an example of how treacherous these Zionists really are.

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Ozskeptic
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Ziad
As you have said, the long anticipated false flag scenario is no longer realistic (in the near future at least) now that Putin and Erdogan have made a deal to create a real DMZ in Idlib.
But the western & zionist buffoons didn’t like being outsmarted, so they struck any way they could, simply out of ‘pique’ and perhaps in the hope that Russia would respond aggressively.
In this context, do you think Iran appears to have been ‘sidelined’ from those talks?

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Tony Cartalucci – Syrian-Russian Victory Only Way to Avenge Israeli-French Strikes

https://journal-neo.org/2018/09/18/syrian-russian-victory-only-way-to-avenge-israeli-french-strikes/

Downed Syrian and Russian aircraft, or casualties inflicted upon Syrian forces and their allies on the battlefield are difficult as human beings to watch without stirring desires for immediate revenge.

Yet it must be kept in mind that immediate revenge rarely serves well long-term strategies toward victory.

Ancient Chinese warlord and strategist Sun Tzu in his timeless treatise, “The Art of War,” would warn contemporary and future generals about the dangers of caving to emotions at the expense of sound strategy.

Eric Bloodaxe
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Revenge is a dish best served cold!

Fog Of War
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However, the timing plays a very important part. If delayed too long, its effectiveness is dramatically diminished.

TEP
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It’s ’emotional’ effectiveness yes, but perhaps it’s strategic effectiveness is the same or better.

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Cartalucci’s article is a masterpiece.

Pacificnorthwest
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The Western hereditary oligarchic elite is becoming increasingly rabid… is it perhaps a kind of demented mental condition resulting from rampant inbreeding?

CHEVI789
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I disagree respectfully Oz/Ziad, it still can happen as it did before, Turks or no Turks in Idlib.

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Everybody is acting separately. Russians, Iranians, Syrians take care on their exclusive safety. No cooridanted defense of entire country will result with such events. Russians lost very valuable plane and next will follow after some apologies and other sorrows.

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And John has a nice expose on this incident.

http://johnhelmer.org/?p=17934

koprolit
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Nice indeed… but what should Putin do? Latest events show that he simply cannot fight against Israel and western powers. Well coordinated effort could easily squeze Russia out of Syria. Netanyahu and Trump know that and will eliminate russian assets one by one by “accident”. Such policy of single shots will not cause russian retaliation,

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Yes, a well-coordinated effort could force Russia out of Syria, but I think it becomes more an more clear with each incident that Syria-Iranian-Hezbollah capabilities will inflict unacceptable losses on Israel.

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With regard to Idlib, Helmer wrote, Putin conceded these terms have not been agreed with the Syrian government in Damascus. That might come later, Putin claimed. “This approach is generally supported by the leadership of the Syrian Arab Republic. We will soon hold additional consultations with the Syrian government.” So far there has been silence from the Syrian Government. My interpretation is that Syria is forced to unofficially acquiesce to the agreement. Putin’s statement that Syria “might” agree later means that they will agree that the deal was a good one if Turkey fulfills its commitment to totally withdraw from… Read more »
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Well the Turcs have to do with a strong “guerilla ” in the Afrin region . They will have to go out of Syria if they don’t want to be stuck like the americans are in Afghanistan .

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Well it is now 100% certain that nato is forcing a confrontation and elijah’s article also makes that clear even with no idlib offensive it might still happen and the hits will degrade SAA to be nothing but a police force. Especially to give the SDF the upper hand. I think thats the reason, the US wants to use the SDF to take over Syria.. Rather than Al queda.. So they using any excuse.. Frenchy did shoot down the IL20.. I am over 99% confidant on this.. The US was going to use the time until the air craft carrier… Read more »
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And John has a nice expose on this.

http://johnhelmer.org/?p=17934

Igor Bundy
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Russia declares no fly zone over Israel coast and northern Israel.. Syrian radar data shows it is not responsible for shooting down the Russian IL20.. Based on NOTAMs issued by #Russia|n Navy, if an #Israel|i fighter jet wants to fly out of #Israel & even attack #Syria, it must fly above 19,000ft. If flies below, it will be shot-down by Russian S-300F. But flying above 19,000ft will cause their shot-down by #Syria|n S-200s! #Russia|n Navy “Marshal Ustinov” (055) Slava-class guided missile cruiser which has 64 S-300F surface to air missiles is now sailing in #MediterraneanSea waters NW. of #Israel. However… Read more »
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#Russia not received data from #Israel on situation with IL-20 in #Syria – Peskov https://sptnkne.ws/j9ce

-#Russia launched an S-400 missile/s against the Israeli jets which were dropping bombs 100Km away, so we’re kept in the dark for now.

-#Russia responded immediately to the attack before the il-20M was lost Because the S-200 missiles were launched 20 min after the first wave.

-The attack lasted about 50 min, so only 4 F-16 doing the bombing is unlikely

Igor Bundy
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Missing from the Russian map are the two British Air Force planes reported in Israel to have taken off from the Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus, and to have maintained a holding pattern above the flight path of the Israeli F-16 fighter-bombers as they moved into their firing positions. Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missiles protect the Khmeimim airbase; their radar and strike ranges are at least 400 kilometres. On Monday evening this meant that Russian air defence crews and the Khmeimim base command tracked the Israeli aircraft from their takeoff positions out into the Mediterranean, and then as they turned north on… Read more »
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Good info Bundy, and fits in with what we already deduced. I maintain my position that NATO (France frigate) brought down that plane during an organized pre-planned melee. The Pentagon was too quick with the Syria AD story. No way did Russia Syria AD take out their most important aerial asset. Russia has gone with this as cover for not engaging NATO. I have to say I do not mind not retaliating directly and telling the world the truth as to what transpired, but I DO object to lying over dead bodies to maintain a false peace. I object to… Read more »
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I am with you, so we should use our priviledge not to be obliged to mask the truth and say what we hold as such. But others cannot possibly do that. You know what we say here is pretty irrelevant because we are.

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the question how irrelevant are the dead? How does it feel to be in a war zone and feel as if your death by betrayal or treachery will only garner mealy mouth polispeak while the perps walk free? I believe we are all out of cheeks, asses and chins.

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https://twitter.com/frances42830555/status/1042529170943815683
We are here for her. And we are going to get them. Zionists-Freemasons into pedophilia, sexual sadistic child murder and even cannibalism do not care about her. So it is up to us to get them!

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Sometimes, in war especially, deceipt is a necessary… even existential gambit.

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Yes, the US knew what happened and who shot down the plane before it even happened, (just like with Nikki’s chemical weapons.) Anytime the US issues a statement , if you believe the exact opposite, it will always be closer to the truth.

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I understand your sentiment and agree with the sentiment, but sometimes a lie takes such force among the sheeple that speaking the truth about that one particular lie damages your usefulness in combating other lies. The denigration of Russia has reached the point where telling the truth of this matter would result in Western sheeple concluding that either 1) Russia is lying or 2) the aggressive bully Russia is actually weak and can be attacked with impunity, or both.

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What an informative article. One thing is pretty obvious – there is hell paying going on. Seems DM Shoigu and DMFA S.V. Vershinin don’t quite see eye to eye with Putin. From the Russian 60 Minute video, it would seem the Russian people don’t agree with Putin either.

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According to an analysis offered by Joaquin Flores on Fort Russ the recent bizarre events unfolding over Syria may have been an attempt, not simply by Israel, but also by France to draw Russia into a renewed political/diplomatic confrontation with NATO.

https://off-guardian.org/2018/09/19/is-russia-engaging-in-strategic-disinfo-to-avoid-being-drawn-into-trap/

See the older thread for more on this..

https://syrianperspective.com/2018/09/rats-move-chlorine-gas-to-basanqool-thousands-leaving-idlib-terrorist-families-head-to-turkeys-border.html

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Bundy, that off-guardian article makes perfect sense. When your enemy throws a punch (even if it hits successfully) keep him off-balance with your response.

It is stunning to think that NATO just took out RuAF top EW surveillance asset in Syria!
Will this make the next imperial missile strike on Syria more devastating? was this missile strike supposed to happen when Russia obliterated that frigate?

I think it probably was.

The level the imperialists are willing to go to smash and control the ME is astonishing.

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I don’t know why people are astonished or surprised the FUKZUS would risk Armageddon. Have you been sleeping for a few hundred years? This is the insanely suitor whose motive is “if I can’t have her no one can”. This is the scorched earth option. Syria and her allies are under a ‘kill or be killed’ by their adversaries. They need to realize there is no such thing as tipping through the tulips. There is no winning the media or perception wars…there is only winning the war period…at all cost. The scheming bankers have no skin in the game they… Read more »
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Correct, GCG, but killing the suitor does not have to be done while he is most prepared. Better to wait a while and catch him unawares, especially when there’s no court to rule it was not self-defense.

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do you think the frogs would gamble on having one of there ships sink just for the sake of providing the coalition a weak pretext to blame russia in order to start ww3? if they want ww3 then im sure the west does not care about good excuses anymore since there last ones have been so week,they can basically get away with anything without having to sacrifice a big asset like that just to start the show,,if there is any false flags being planned to start ww3 it is not one where one of there big assets would be sacrificed

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As I told you on the other thread, ziad, you need to make up your mind whether it was risky or not. You said anybody who thought the Russians would fall for the ruse and sink a French ship was crazy. Anyway, what makes you think the French were aware of the full scope of the plan, or that a missile hit would necessarily sink the ship and kill all on board?

But I guess you were replying to GCG, not me.

ziad
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and did you bother to see my reply to you on that?because you did not reply back on it ,,let me go over everything with you step by step so there is no more confusion as to what i said and what i keep saying now ,because you think im contradicting myself and i am not, here was your comment on the other thread “Your babble doesn’t even make logical sense. First you wrote, “…to think the french ship would allow itself to risk being a possible sacrificial lamb … is stupid and very risky unless the ship was a… Read more »
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i will stick with the official story that indeed an s200 hit the plane by mistake,hopefully the wreckage will be shown to prove this,,,if i am wrong on this and it is proven i am wrong then by all means i will admit to that,,so we shall see ,hopefully

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It’s not worth arguing with you about what was written on the previous thread. I stand by my claim that you contradicted yourself, first saying that France wouldn’t take the risk and subsequently saying the “they,” presumably meaning FUKZUS, did not expect Russia to retaliate. Others can go back to that thread and see for themselves.

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France would not take the risk, hence why the British were in a holding pattern over it to shoot down any coastal missiles that Russia fired at the frigate.

Why be prepared if they did not expect it? If it was an awacks or elint plane I can understand.. But even then it seems how did they know before hand to get to the holding pattern..

ziad
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how do you know who was in the air doing what and what they were carrying??? all speculations from you,,and even so if they were you think the frogs risking being so close to coastal defense range with there billion dollar ship were gonna put there life in the hands of the twatts flying above to somehow shoot down every supersonic sea skimmer headed towards them? why would they go through all this elaborate mission impossible plan ? what were they expecting would happen exactly,that once they down the plane with idf behind it (dumb idea) rusia would fire on… Read more »
ziad
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if its not worth arguing about what was prev said then why did you bring it up again? yet when i correct you on it by going through the details you now dont wish to talk about it anymore and falsely keep claiming that i contradicted myslef ,,please stop putting words in my mouth and trying to re hash the whole thing with more confusion,like with your “they” which they are you using? they as in france or colaition or israhell? dont presume,,that is your problem when you make presumptions and i already explained “patsy” was wrong choice of words… Read more »
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did you not see my long post to you guys who think it was france or kike? i had some valid question and reasoning ,,go read that and tell me if you can reason with it or refute it ,,so far not many takers willing

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The S200 is a semi active missile that gets its target lock from the reflection of the S200 radar.. So what ever the S200 is looking at is what gets hit.. And if nothing then it finds the largest object in the air and aims for that. I would think that feature would have been disabled on the Syrian versions. Considering the large number of passenger jets in the area… I would agree with you if this was 2-3 years ago before Russian made changes to the Syrian AD systems.. Did some Syrian get lazy and not make the mods?… Read more »
ziad
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here why dont you chew and digest on my post that you did not bother taking on ,i even paragraphed it to make it an easy read for you as you mentioned “i have a question for those of you who think that the frogs or the kikes shot the plane down,, you believe for some reason russia decided to cover it up with a syrian friendly fire and that this was done because they are afraid of looking weak to the world while they are trying to avoid ww3? yet when turdgay shot down one of there jets did… Read more »
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Correct GCG. They tried to ignite World War III in September 2013 with the NATO cruise missile attack aimed at Damascus. Every nation in the region had already announced its preparedness to launch war, including Iran. Only the Kremlin’s dexterous moves avoided regional, and likely nuclear war. As A_R observes, the Resistance will have to bide its time, but if the Empire of Chaos give no sign they are ready to co-exist, and intend hegemony or bust, then at a time (very soon) they will be smashed. Even worse, Washington insanity will determine that the hand grenade must be removed… Read more »
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DT, your boxing analogy is perfect. When your opponent lands a crippling blow and scores a knockdown, you don’t charge back flailing away half blinded and in a daze. You instead wait for the 8 count, then back away to avoid the knockout blow to hold out until the end of the round when you can get first aid and advice from your corner. You come out for the next round with additional knowledge and physically recovered.

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Israel requires Russia to help, somehow, balance its interests with those of Iran and Syria. Israel had the least to gain by pushing Russia further away from Israel diplomatically, Israel would have been taking precautions not to hit Russian targets.

https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/full-analysis-russian-disinfo-campaign-blames-israel-for-il-20-plane-downing-yet-exonerates-france/

the physical evidence requirement would also lend towards Russia blaming France since, well, France in fact carried out the attack.

Igor Bundy
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The IL20 with its Russian and Syrian mixed crew..

ziad
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“Syrian radar data shows it is not responsible for shooting down the Russian IL20.. ” meaning what exactly

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It means every missile Syria fired was nowhere near the IL20 and they can prove it with their radar data.
In other words, Syrian data can prove it was the enemy that took out that plane.
In other, other words, this was not a “tragedy” amidst “confusion”, it was a planned act by Israel.
The Russians are playing coy but this is a turning point. Russia can now take out NATO aircraft without triggering a bigger conflagration.

ziad
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sorry but it still seems like all speculation,,have you seen what the radar data shows? all we know is that they say they were not responsible,,this could still mean they downed it by accident but were not responsible because they had no idea the plane was there(like Ziad says) or because they fired at the kikes while they were still further away from the plane,,could mean anything,and till now we dont know fuck all aside from more speculations ,i agree with you if it means they fired missiles that were initial no where the plane as a possibility of not… Read more »
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Ziad: Janes raised the issue of information publicly accessible being possibly exploitable.
What do you think?

” Syrian ground-based air defences had shot the aircraft down by mistake, and a Facebook post written by the SAA just prior warned that it could and would engage airborne threats out to “at least 100+ km”. That this post was written the day before the loss of the Il-20 suggested that the SAA’s air defence units were on a heightened state of alert, even by Syrian standards, increasing the chances of a mistake such as this.”

Igor Bundy
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Assad wont allow the Syrian armed forces to take risks..

That part should be understood why it does not retaliate for Israeli provocations. Same for the S200 crews. Who shoots at targets coming at them. Not outside.. I have not seen any indication Syria has changed its rules of engagement..

Being super alert is why it took 20mins to shoot an S200 missiles after Israeli attack.. As he was on his lunch break..

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Is that supposed to answer my question?
It doesn’t.
Could Israel exploit this type of info to their advantage and if so how?
I guess I’m wondering what is really possible here?
Maybe someone with some, more or a whole lot of military experience could assist?

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Link to
Janes

forgot to include it earlier.

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The article sites little evidence or analysis, simply regurgitating what’s been stated by government sources on all sides. I’m sure Syrian AD does not issue orders via Facebook, though bluster, propaganda and warnings might be. The telltales here are 1) the initial assignment of responsibility by the Russian MoD, 2) the speed with which the US DoD concluded it was friendly fire without taking time to analyze data and 3) the interests of all parties involved. In particular to 3), it’s not in the interest of NATO to admit to an unprovoked and deliberate aggression against Russia without so much… Read more »
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” I’m sure Syrian AD does not issue orders via Facebook,” Does it say that orders were issued anywhere in that article? Let’s read it again” “Facebook post written by the SAA just prior warned that it could and would engage airborne threats out to “at least 100+ km”. That this post was written the day before the loss of the Il-20 suggested that the SAA’s air defence units were on a heightened state of alert” I see the word order absolutely no where at all. Restating another’s words does not inform us of their truth or falseness- It’s merely… Read more »
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I didn’t claim the article said orders were issued via FB. I was just covering both possibilities and rejected one possibility out of hand. Therefore, the FB post was simply propaganda or disinfo. If it even existed, it had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with what Syrian orders or rules of engagement actually were for that evening.

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Penny, I would not like to side track, however you did not answer my yesterday’s question either, which was, when do you believe Erdoghan should leave Syria, and if he needs to be encouraged at that point in time, what should be done to achieve this? I am lacking a realistic scenario within the approach that is priviledged by you, which is if I am not mistaken, that Turkey should not be forced out of Idlib before the Kurdish question is gonna be settled by him in Syria.

Penny
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Didn’t see your question- so I can’t answer what I don’t see. “when do you believe Erdoghan should leave Syria, and if he needs to be encouraged at that point in time, what should be done to achieve this? I’m not a seer, nor do I read minds or dreams. No one could answer that question- Not Putin, not Erdogan, No one. There is no one that could give a definitive answer. How about you provide an opinion? What’s on your mind with that line of questioning? How do you think this scenario may unfold? Considering all that is at… Read more »
Farty Beans
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That was quite informative thank you. Noone is answering my questions either so may be this helps.

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Why are people down voting a reasonable question and answer? It’s ridiculous. Thanks for the link.

Penny
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@ Shue Arie:

You are welcome.

ziad
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ridicurus is the name of the game around here,,welcome to da jungle,,btw your name idk if intentional or not but it translates quite funny in arabic ,if that was your aim

António Ferrão
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Priceless:
…warbling like nightingales… like starlings
I’ll vote for them in the 2019 Europe Song Context.

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Global Conflict Spreading Like a Virus

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There is no representative of the ‘Syrian regime’ at the United Nations.

I am the representative of the Syrian Arab Republic.” Bashar Jaafari at #UNSC #Syria “Why is #France providing cover to #terrorists groups when they are the same who launched the attacks on the theater and on Nice?”

“#Israel attacked my country twice this week. It seems some members of the council are not aware of this fact.”

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South Front – Syrian War Report – Sept. 19, 2018: War Criminal al-Qaeda Mercenary JEWhadist Terrorist Slaves Of Israel Reject Demilitarization Zone In Idlib

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Ziad, I would like to reiterate my questions in the commentary section of the previous post. I am not a believer in the thesis that nothing happens by chance, that everything has to have an intended reason. I saw many things that happened purely coincidentally and in the context of a chain of several coincidental happenings. For this reason I always priviledge a simple and plausible explanation that involves coincidental elements. However, in order to make up my mind I would need an answer to the following questions: 1) Is it impossible beyond reasonable doubt the IL was not aware… Read more »
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How did Zionists know the flight plan of the IL-20 and thus be able to cobble together the alleged plan? That’s the key question for me.

karlof1
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Seems trolls don’t like sensible questions to be asked.

Thucydides
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I think that plane just does the same route every day.
It is not that you expect Israel/French to shoot down a Russian plane with 15 crew members. The Rothschild family desperately needs to resources in Russia/Iran/Syria and a road connection from the EU through Lebanon into Israel. They also have billions of other rich people invested in the LOOTING of Syria.
The plan must go forward!
Syria, Iran and Russia has to be looted!
Syria first.

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The best answer I was able to arrive at is they learned the flight plan through the deconfliction hotline mechanism set up with both the Outlaw US Empire and the Zionists to prevent such “accidents.” That and the likelihood the IL-20 made a routine patrol covering the same route on a daily basis, which made it possible to devise a plan of attack. And given what’s known of the Zionist jets’s maneuvers, that’s the best possible guess absent the radar data to examine.

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i asked this myself because the whole conspiracy thing made no sense to me ,,most likely it was just an idea they had to shadow the plane for cover ,perhaps they knew about the plane scheduled or simply coincidence

ziad
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i asked this myself because the whole conspiracy thing made no sense to me ,,most likely it was just an idea they had to shadow the plane for cover ,perhaps they knew about the plane’s schedule or simply coincidence that they took advantage off,,but it is hard to believe they came all that way and risked being shot at by giving the russians a very short warning time,perhaps the plane cover was pre planned after all

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@ Karolf1,

If you have to neutralize a target, said target is followed, studied and analyzed to detect patterns. If that’s physically impossible, other means will be employed [drones, bribes, etc.]. The enigma code was cracked, partially because of human habits. It’s one of those ‘flaws’ that can be and will be exploited.

What I’m curious about is how the Apartheid State always seems to know what plane or places to target, in order to hit Iranian/Hezbollah assets.

I hope Iran/Hezbollah track down those leaks [be they HUMINT or mechanical].

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karlof1, just as Israel was supposed to notify Russia of the F-16 flights (more than 60 seconds in advance), so too the IL-20 flight plan was probably given to Israelis and even NATO well in advance. Part of deconfliction.

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Gordon Duff – Will Victorious Russia Call America’s Bluff

https://journal-neo.org/2018/09/13/will-russia-call-america-s-bluff/

It is the worst kept secret in the world that tens of millions of Americans are so upset with their own regime that the idea of the United States losing a major war, even facing occupation, is no longer seen as a “negative.”

Tens of millions of Americans believe it already happened, by dark of night, rigged elections, bribed officials, Israeli trained militarized police, massive internet spying, dead end low paying jobs, a rigged game, a life of subsistence and slavery, and end to hope.

[…]

Pacificnorthwest
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Before the establishment of the Federal Reserve private banking cartel in 1913 the American people (at least those not deprived of their basic human rights by institutional racism) used to own most of this country.

After 100 years of globalist banker embezelment the American people essentially own nothing at all and are largely trapped in debt slavery.

America is an occupied country already; most of us just don’t realize this yet.

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You are very smart and very clever. Did you learn all of that when you were living at Lompoc ?

Pacificnorthwest
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Hows the weather in Tel Aviv, troll?

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Continue to just make fun of them PN, trolls hate that.

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Phil Butler – A View of the Deadly World Order

https://journal-neo.org/2018/09/16/a-view-of-the-deadly-world-order/

The outlook for humanity is not good.

Crises that should by now, not even exist in the 21st Century, they now affect every man, woman, and child on the planet.

Still, reality never really sinks in for the people of the world. Hollywood and the PR gamers obscure the same evils humankind has endured for countless centuries.

Meanwhile, the real villains escape the justice they so richly deserve.

Here’s a window inside this cell you’ve locked yourself into, a view of inestimable treachery and evil.

[…]

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Ray McGovern – On the Brink with Russia in Syria Again, 5 Years Later

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/09/12/on-the-brink-with-russia-in-syria-again-5-years-later/

On September 4, 2013 citizen Donald Trump had tweeted: “Many Syrian ‘rebels’ are radical Jihadis. Not our friends & supporting them doesn’t serve our national interest. Stay out of Syria!”

Last week Trump warned Russian and Syria not to attack Idlib. Trump faces perhaps his biggest test as president: whether he can resist his NEOCON advisers and not massively attack Syria.

[…]

Fog Of War
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This is from last year, think about the logical conclusions in light of the il-20 incident.

– It’s Official, Russia and Syria Have Linked Their Air Defense Networks –

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/13836/its-official-russia-and-syria-have-linked-their-air-defense-networks

Penny
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RT “The Russian Defense Ministry has described as “amateur fantasies” claims that the Il-20 military plane was hit in Syria due to a failure in the friend-foe identification system. Each state has its own Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system and Russia does not install its identification systems on armaments exported abroad, the ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Thursday. There were no precedents where it had transferred IFF systems with Russian identification codes to other states. “All this fully applies to the domestic air defense systems delivered to the Syrian Arab Republic,” he said. “The IFF system of… Read more »
Fog Of War
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Penny:

Not sure what you’re trying to say. The AD systems are supposedly fully integrated. Assuming the Syrian crews didn’t have the capability to identify Russian planes, which seems very odd as how could they identify anything else in Syrian airspace that wasn’t Syrian ? Basically, the Russians are most likely overseeing all of Syria’s AD defenses and have real-time input into its operations. There is no way they weren’t aware of all air traffic near Syria that day. This statement from the Russians seems like another cover story.

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I’m not saying a thing- Merely left the link and the report:

The Russian Defense Ministry is stating and I’ll quote from the report again:

“Russia does not install its identification systems on armaments exported abroad, the ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Thursday.”

It seems very likely the Russians are aware of the positioning of all their air traffic. But that’s not what is being discussed.

Russia is claiming it does not install it’s identification systems on armaments shipped abroad. This speaks to the friend or foe question that I myself had.

Thucydides
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That is to make sure people more eagerly buy their equipment. If they would install GPS trackers (like the Americans/Zionists probably do secretly) then no one would buy their stuff. This is a commercial statement.

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Moscow Has Upped the Ante in Syria

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/09/09/moscow-has-upped-the-ante-in-syria/

FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

Mr. President:

The Israelis, Saudis, and others who want unrest to endure are egging on the insurgents, assuring them that you, Mr. President, will use U.S. forces to protect the insurgents in Idlib, and perhaps also rain hell down on Damascus.

We believe that your senior advisers are encouraging the insurgents to think in those terms, and that your most senior aides are taking credit for your recent policy shift from troop withdrawal from Syria to indefinite war.

[…]

ziad
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so ya Ziad I guess if what you say is official then it means i was right making the argument that it was simply a syrian mistake and that the kikes and frogs had not fired on the plane and this is why russia did not retaliate against them ,,so much for joaquin flores and his long ass conspiracy article trying to blame the frogs

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Zionist treachery is epitomized by their pre-meditated calculating false flag mass muder of 3000 people in New York City on 9-11-2001

It is a day of infamy, which has led the world to where we are today.

As they say… with friends like these, who needs enemies.

Thucydides
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The American people wanted to buy into the ZIONISTS (a Freemasonry club) propaganda same way the Germans bought into the NAZI propaganda. Only difference is that it took the Germans quicker to wake up to the madness.

These people want to be SPECIAL. That is the issue. Rothschild family only wants more GOLD BARS.

https://youtu.be/jiHm2S0w3_Q
From JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man’s (Rothschild family) Trick

https://youtu.be/BtSv3x6lh3o
Americans love war – George Carlin

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You seriously need to educate yourself on the National Socialism movement and pre-WW2 Germany my friend, it bears no resemblance to the bullshit War on Terror zionist fraud perpetrated on the US population thru western population and which is now inflicted upon everyone. It isn’t even the same ballpark. Germany was sucked into WW2 by the anglozio imperialists to destroy it as a competitor. Attacking commie Russia was their biggest mistake. Post-commie modern Russia is being sucked into WW3 in almost the same way to push it out of the energy-rich MENA, isolate it and break it apart inside out… Read more »
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It is all about gold bars. Rothschild family wanted more gold bars. And they wanted the gold bars from the Jews and Gypsies. So they had to put them through the ghetto’s and extermination camp obstacle course with their Zionists-Freemasons in the NAZI ranks on all sides. “Germany was sucked into WW2 by the Anglo-Zionist imperialists to destroy it as a competitor.” Propaganda narrative. They want GOLD BARS from the people (governments) to flow to the bankers so they can never ever print their own money. That is the primary goal always. The bank of England (solely owned by the… Read more »
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Except, most oldtimers have been calling it “jewtube” before the SP even existed, wayback when the yids were over running Iraq right behind their NATO pals. Like Thuc says, Don’t want to name the jew , that would be anti-semitic,

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DT, well said except that you apparently are not aware of the latest revisionist revelation that operation Barbarosa was in fact a pre-emptive strike to thwart a planned Soviet invasion of German occupied areas. According to that claim, one of the reasons the German blitz was so effective at the start was that the Soviets were deployed in concentrated pre-offensive masses, with little thought to defense. They were thus prone to being quickly surrounded and cut off.

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Patrick J Buchanan – Is US Being Sucked Into Syria’s War?

http://buchanan.org/blog/us-sucked-syrias-war-128732

The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is an annex of the Israeli lobby and a charter member of the War Party.

Chagai Tzuriel, who heads the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence, echoed the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies: “If you (Americans) are committed to countering Iran in the region, then you must do so in Syria — first.”

[…]

Thucydides
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Separate the Jews from the male Zionists engaged into organized pedophilia and organized rape.
https://youtu.be/_VBcaP1ZgXE
Zionists (just another Freemasonry club) are male rapists and male pedophiles.
The women into Zionism have NO power and are ignorant silly girls. So you can ignore them.

ziad
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chipping away at doggy dogs dreams,,,
Syrian Army strikes northern Latakia and west Idlib hard despite Sochi agreement (video)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-strikes-northern-latakia-and-west-idlib-hard-despite-sochi-agreement-video/

Pacificnorthwest
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Recent tweet from Yusha Yuseef, editor of Muraselon: High sources to me : All reports about arresting the syrian air-defence soldiers by Russian MP in Lattakia are totally false.

Also related on this subject: Syrian UN Ambassador Al-Jaafari: ” The Russian martyrs are our martyrs .. One blood … One enemy “

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The ISRAEL TIMES also reported that the Russians arrested the S200 operators and in addition the Israeli top air force general is flying to Moscow with diagrams on how it all happened. Yes I read the ISRAEL TIMES daily. Tsu Fu says “know your enemy”-every Syper follower needs to read enemy reports.

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Fuckin Jew

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I think they will have restrictions on how they can fly over Syria , land and sea . They got it .At least they will have to explain in advance they trajectory

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As long that it’s not on RT or sputniknews I’m skeptical; such a major news would be reported on a more semi-official media outlet

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jfb
Rusvesna reports that the Russian military has made a major move. Effective September 19th, the Russian Federation has announced the closure of a large area of the eastern Mediterranean for the movement of military aircraft and ships until the 26th of September.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/true-unconfirmed-report-russian-navy-has-closed-the-eastern-mediterranean-map/

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A few points. 1) Russian and Syria AD systems have been integrated since 2017. Most likely Russia has final say in any launches, additionally, there is no way Russia wasn’t aware of all air traffic around Syria, and in the whole region. Basically, the accidental launch story is a cover. 2) Russia just concluded a massive drill in the Mediterranean with the ships remaining afterwards. Where were they ? 3) If France launched the missile, then that is a blatant , non -accidental , attack by one nation on another. France cannot invoke NATO protocols as it was the aggressor.… Read more »
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You are missing 1 important fact. The attack on the Iranian cargo plane some days earlier. SPECULATION I think the Turks escorted a NATO/Isis group out of Idlib into Turkey? They then executed them all and took the 22 tons of gold and 3 billion dollars. This happened 14 September. The attack on the Iranian cargo plane and the Russian IL-22 have to be seen as REVENGE for losing the 22 tons of gold. Criminally insane Zionists-Freemasons that decide to loot and pillage Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.and now Syria. They are crime syndicates and mafia clans. Clinton mafia clan, Trump mafia… Read more »
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Tucy you know what is a village idiot,
alas, don’t try to play one.
Deceiving trolls can have same attitude.
Anyway feel free stupidity knows no borders.

Thucydides
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Nobody is afraid of the village idiot. https://youtu.be/5m1rEm21nEk I think Hillary Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein and Tony Podesta will die very soon now (the central bankers have no loyalty to anyone). I found some pictures of these fools and their activities with little children tied up into chairs. I bet the Chinese and Russians also have them and use them as leverage. Releasing parts of the pictures to the internet now and then to keep pressure on the criminally insane fools. The Chinese did hack Hillary Clinton her email server. http://humansarefree.com/2017/12/how-elite-bloodlines-and-secret.html “””Today, much disinformation comes via the Internet, false and dead-end… Read more »
Fog Of War
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” The attack on the Iranian cargo plane and the Russian IL-22 have to be seen as REVENGE for losing the 22 tons of gold ”

There’s a logical disconnect here. Why not attack Turkey, who actually took the gold ?

Thucydides
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The gold was brought back to Syria.
https://twitter.com/Syrian_Uruk/status/1040664539233247232

https://youtu.be/sf367DhT_fk
Titus Pullo finds Pompeii’s gold.

Fog Of War
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” SPECULATION I think the Turks escorted a NATO/Isis group out of Idlib into Turkey? ”

You’re contradicting yourself Thucky.

Thucydides
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The 8 Russian attack planes can be the deception in this story. Would the money not burn up?

You remember everyone screaming at the UN and in the media they have to protect the civilian population inside Idlib?

How quiet they all have become now the gold is gone.

Fog of War
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Thats all great, but you still contradicted yourself.

charles drake
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thuck nukems family name is goldstein .
if thick nukem crazy khazarian ashkanazi smells gold i say take that to the bank.
the thuck steins are on gold like white on rice or fly on shit

Fred
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Really, FOW, the BS from old senile and idiotic Tuc is logically disconnected?
Really?
I am astonished!

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Avoiding the wicked provocation which was intended to trigger a scenario of uncontrollable escalation leading to all out global war seems to be behind the Russian non-reaction. I suspect that, if indeed it was the French frigate that shot the missile that downed the plane that an asymmetric response is in the works and that the French military will soon have some tragic “accidents”… somewhere in thd world.

Fog Of War
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” French military will soon have some tragic “accidents”… ”

One can hope, however, there would be no escalation since France attacked first. Why not, at least, call them out publicly present all pertinent radar, and other evidence ? Additionally, institute massive economic and diplomatic sanctions. In other words, force France to apologize on the world stage, pay costs for the plane, and the aircrew. This might actually lead to a collapse of the French regime, if the truth came out. Why not do this, instead of blaming the poor Syrians ?

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Yeah why not do this? What a brilliant idea and an enjoyable perspective! Ah, the collapse of the French regime, how about that! Let’s humiliate them, Macron, in tears, apologizing in front of the whole world! Imagine the picture.

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Of course it was a provocation, and a well planned one. The neocons are trying to jump start the conflict. The twin party US political system has been after Putin since the POTUS election. Trump and Haley have been badmouthing Iran in the press with increasing intense ferocity. Chief neocon Bolton has been standing in the background salivating for war ever since he got into the cabinet. His recent trips to Israel were probably bringing in the blueprints for the operation and finalizing the deal with the ober juden. NATO assets were moved into position ahead of time for retaliatory… Read more »
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“Finalizing the deal with the ober juden.” Zionists. These people (Zionists) throw Jews into poverty in Israel, steal holocaust money, send Jews off to die in wars for GOLD BARS. The Zionists in control of Israel do not care anything about religion, principles, human rights, or Jews. They do NOT care about Jews. These people are selected by the Rothschild family on one thing ==> criminally insane. They have to prove their loyalty by engaging into organized group rape, organized group pedophilia, organized sexual sadistic murder and EVEN group cannibalism with little children there tied to their chairs (there are… Read more »
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Interesting comment by Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov in an official Russian embassy tweet on the evolving train wreck otherwise known as the Ukraine: @RusEmbUSA · Sep 17 ICYMI I would like to strongly warn those who are hatching a military scenario in Donbass. It would be a disaster for the Ukrainian people, because it may really undermine Ukrainian statehood – Lavrov If the Nazis gain power in this failed state and kick off their promused genocidal progrom, I believe Lavrov indicated that Ukrainian statehood itself would as he put it “be undermined”. The globalist war party is pushing very hard… Read more »
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Mileikowski. What’s his full name? Thank you.

Tell
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or Mileikowski, the grandfather of B. Netanyahu was Rabbi Nathan Mileikowsky who went to Palestein in 1920.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mileikowsky

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PUTIN is directly to blame for the loss of these 15 service members lives. Not Israel. Not Syria. Not arming their closest ally (Syria) adequately. Playing nice and living under the delusion that Israel is their ally (it is not). Russia is fully capable of providing a clear deterrent to US, it’s coalition of vassal states and Israel that any attacks on Syria will result in immediate retaliation, and backing it up without significant consequence. What does it have to fear ? Russia is already sanctioned to the hilt, encircled by US missile sites and allies, undermined from within by… Read more »
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I keep reading about ‘advanced AA’ to be a complete game changer against Israel, but I’m afraid this is not at all the case. Syria (between Daraa and Damascus) is enclosed in mountains towards all important directions. Not even if they had a radar station in the Golan heights could Syria track or see low flying Zionist jets going around in the coastal region. Unless you have AWACS in the air and a few destroyers in the Med, for good measure, Israel has free reign to conduct cowardly hit-and-run attacks. Moreover, if your ROE don’t include to open up on… Read more »
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Prepping for the inevitable. Why have an ambassador, when he’s going to be recalled anyhow. – French govt holds off on Tehran envoy nomination after foiled bomb plot – ” France will not name a new ambassador to Tehran before receiving information from Iran following a foiled plot to bomb an Iranian opposition rally in Paris last June, French officials said on Wednesday. An Iranian diplomat based in Austria and three other people were arrested on suspicion of plotting the attack on a meeting of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), Reuters said. Tehran has said it had… Read more »
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I believe Iran. https://twitter.com/Veraciti_Bot She has her own unique style but she is very good! https://twitter.com/Veraciti_Bot/status/1007412170190028800 https://twitter.com/Veraciti_Bot/status/1005316154385096704 She also says the the British royals are into cannibalism. So are the Rothschild’s and the other fools that are close to them. https://twitter.com/Veraciti_Bot/status/998222513455878149 Kuru disease is from cannibalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease) Rothschild menu 1972, lady and sir loin (cannibalism). I found this Rothschild menu list 2 weeks ago. Some days ago I found the pictures of these F UPS. This is the Rothschild trick. They surround themselves with the utmost criminally insane people so they always follow their orders. Because they have files on… Read more »
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Thank you Ziad for your prompt post of the initial findings. I suspect that with thorough investigations ongoing, time will reveal more details.

In the meantime the fervent theories being discussed by Sypers show extraordinary knowledge and passionate venture for the truth. However, they are at this time theories none-the-less. Personally I will wait for the availability of as much information as possible before deciding on how credible or otherwise the official versions are compared to the current and future theories.

Kia kaha Syria and Sypers, we are all (mostly) on the same side, and make no mistake – we are winning.

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that story was yesterday soon the russians will have another turkey stab in the back an incoming chemical chlorine attack a talmoo video full of emote emotion crying children syrian danny pleading for nato help against animal assad. bell pottinger rita katz productions exclusive anderson pooper scooper croc tears isis shootings in france mass shootings in usa usa stab stab stab another in london in a day or so who will remember how many years will it take russia to replace this plane those mens skills. putin said it israel did not do it did not mention brits skulking in… Read more »
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After investing 7 years fighting in Syria, the world has to understand Mr. Putin patience in this latest act of provocation. Russia has already done the heavy lifting in Syria and peace is about to be restored. If Russia retaliate and a shooting match ensues, the chances are the west with their NATO partner Turkey will bomb the daylight in Syria and overthrow the democratically elected Government of Dr. Assard. Turkey is single-handedly responsible for most of this terrorism in Syria by facilitating terrorist movements, supply of arm, logistics support and the general assistance to the terrorist to wreak havoc… Read more »
St. George
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Israel’s worst nightmare, As we have heard from others, The US and French statements were prepared ahead of time. But they did not anticipate the Russian reaction, (to blame Israel.)

“Both the French denial and the U.S. statements about Syrian air defenses being the culprit came before anything official came from the Russians.
This is a classic “preparing the narrative” technique used by the West all the time. Seize the story, plant seeds of doubt and put your opponent into a rhetorical box they can’t wiggle out of with the truth.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-19/decoding-putins-response-attack-syria

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Saudi Arabia They are a Freemasonry lodge, Wahhabism Islam is just a Freemasonry club (fraternity) controlled by the London & Paris bankers. They deliberately kept their young men stupid. They deliberately told them fairy tales ==>at when you blow yourself up you do a good thing! Saudi Arabia before anyone else because they provided the foot soldiers, as they were designed to do for long ago. Saudi Arabia also financed tens of thousands of mosques all over the world to spread the same HATE ideology (designed by the Rothschild-Zionists-Freemasons-Illuminati). This ideology made it possible to bring large numbers of useful… Read more »
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As a side news from the Syrian desert, ISIS pocket between Homs and DeZ Province has shrunk considerably in the last 2 weeks due to the coordinated effort by Liwa al Quds and the SAA. They basically pushed ISIS left over terrorists to about 1/4 of the original pocket they held 2 weeks ago, finally dislodged from al Sarayim area, a long time stronghold due to its 1,000 ft hill. The preparation to the final push toward Doubayat gas field, the last oil/gas filed held by ISIS west of the Euphrates is on going. http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.885931&lon=39.600220&z=9&m=w&gz=0;390371704;345834750;5712890;2596377;4833984;700695;4064941;135664;576782;0;0;1558804 Differently from al Safa pocket,… Read more »
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@canthena “without access to water”

Sounds like they won’t be in fighting condition then, for much longer. I hear it’s a horrible way to go.

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ISIS is dwindling in al Safa, though the terrain does give advantages for defenders hence their fierce resistance plus their initial numbers, they lost few days ago their last access to large water well, it is downhill from now onwards. A side comment is that most of ISIS in al Safa are the relocated ones from Yarmouk camp, south Damascus, they are, in vast majority, Palestinians from Hamas/Muslin Brotherhood then al Qaeda that then shifted to ISIS few years back. Their fierce resistance is commendable, but one can not stop thinking why this fierce fighting will was never directed at… Read more »
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Hamas was midwifed into existence by the Mossad, in order to destroy the PLO. The Muslim Brotherhood itself, the milleau from which Hamas itself emerged has been from its inception highly penetrated by British intelligence. As with all occult organizations having a murky past it is hard to say who their masters really are. Without transparency there can be no certainty! The cannon fodder low level foot soldiers, no doubt are indoctrinated with whatever works…. to motivate them to be killers. With occult organizations one never knows though who the higher ups are actually really working for. Historic example from… Read more »
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@Ziad Thanks for the updates. I am shocked the US trying to influence the Iraqi political system. Who would of ever thought. Yes Ziad the impeccable jurist. Well noted on the name and its historical significance. Interesting take by Joaquin Flores at Fort Russ and great synopsis by Meyssen over at Volataire.net.org. Never trust the Turks. It seems the anglo-zionist did not expect the results of Socchi. The Syrian and Russian intelligence was indicating that multiple recordings of false flags had happened along with embedded western news orginisations. Voila the recent propaganda piece out of Idlib who appears that black… Read more »
Daniel Rich
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Compagno falcemartello, come stai?

Corrected the hasbara troll’s down-vote [you’ve obviously pissed them off].

It’s safe to say Putin pulls off whatever he needs in order to stay above the fray of fraternizing fat boys. Like a true judoka, he uses his opponent’s momentum, to get the result he wants/needs.

This is a man nobody should underestimate, ever [although such a statement fall of deaf, western, political ears].

falcemartello
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@Daniel Think about it from reading Flores and thenMeyssen Putin has the frogs scratching there heads the Colonialist of occupied Jaffa wondering what the fuk. If I were them I would be having an operation to place eyes at the back of my head. Like Bundy referenced back these guys were not any servicemana they were specialised airmen in electronic war fare of the 5th generational type. These bunch of neanderthals could not even coordinate a false flag when push comes to shove. See Idlib is not the problem but the UN and all the related institutions. Lavarov has already… Read more »
Farty Beans
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What we have actually witnessed is a 50 min micro-war in the course of which the IL was brought down. Small version of what would have happend after the Idlib FF CW. After the Eastern Ghouta from al-Tanf to Damascus plan this is the second attempt to decapitate. Consider how important the Idlib move was. Just to say, I followed the same procedure to compare Meyssan and Flores.

Fog of War
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– EU encourages migration by offering large social benefits, why would the flow stop? – Putin –

https://www.rt.com/news/438753-putin-eu-migration-wont-stop/

I hope Putin understands this was all setup by design by a certain ((( group ))).

Pacificnorthwest
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Pacificnorthwest

Kikes?

charles drake
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charles drake

no
it is a tranny with a dclet
like it;s brother rita katz of site intel group
they are both frankfurt schooled satanick ashkanazi.
they are also victims of child abuse and shock therapy devoid of empathy and the ability to have any humanity
they are pioneers scouts soldier for oded yinon when israel is mighty
psycho monster

Fog of War
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Fog of War

Did you watch the video ? Your answer is there.

Thucydides
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I watched it. It tries to blame the refugee crisis on the Jews. I am responsible for the refugee crisis. I did propaganda for it for 2-3 years before it materialized. I wrote a whole plan for it and posted it 5.000+ on LiveLeak. I used to write on Twitter: “Soros claims responsibility for the refugee crisis. I surely hope I get the credits if London & Paris are destroyed with Hydrogen bombs. Credits for 1 city is enough!” https://youtu.be/T2I66dHbSRA When the first Hydrogen bomb goes off, think of me, for a little while! Just imagine London being destroyed by… Read more »
Pacificnorthwest
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Pacificnorthwest

That is not me.
Some zionist asshole troll is impersonating me.

This troll is like a fucking tick!

Daniel Rich
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@ PNW,

Hasbara troll central banks on people not checking a commenter’s level.

It also tells you these ashkenazi trolls don’t care how low they have to stomp through shit to hawk their counterproductive ‘I hate Jews’ crapola.

But their retribution is on its way. It’ll be a nice Christmas present. Ho, ho, ho…

P.S. it’s more than 1 individual.

The Greatest Lie EverTold
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The Greatest Lie Ever Told – THE HOLOCAUST – Pastor Steven Anderson

Thucydides
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Holocaust had to happen because it was designed by the Rothschild family from the UK and France. They wanted the GOLD out of the Jews and Gypsies and they wanted to colonize Palestine with “healthy and strong” Jews. So they hired a country full of thugs, Germany, and started the mass murdering of these people. They no longer control the propaganda narrative. https://twitter.com/SecretsOfPapacy/status/1037879486564458496 “The Zionists banksters financed Adolf Hitler in order to legitimize the creation of the Zionist State of “Israel”. Why Palestine? To control the Suez canal and the petroleum resources of the Middle East. The plan was to… Read more »
Pacificnorthwest
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@Daniel. It’s an Israeli paid (+useful idiots) troll army. The Zionists desparation to control the narrative is both transparent and ultimately futile. In spite of the rivers of money and effort they pour into shaping and directing the message their control of global opinion is falling apart. The racist apartheid nature of Zionism is its own worst enemy…. who, besides a zionist (whether of the Jewish or KKKristian variety) could stomach an evil worm such as this racist hellhole that murders unarmed civilians in the various walled in concentration camps in which they are being held against their will, with… Read more »
Ozskeptic
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Pnw
Relax. Only posters with an IQ below 10 plus an extra Y chromosome (like the troll) would ever be fooled.
*Not so long ago we had some entertaining, high-quality trolls here. This one isn’t even funny enough to poke fun at!

Ozskeptic
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OMG, Pacific N W – you have suddenly slipped to Level 1 Anon!
*Pathetic name-stealing Troll, is this the best you can do? (yawn)

anti_republocrat
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anti_republocrat

Not the real PNW, who knows better.

Dimitriy Koralev
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I hope people stop saying that Russia launched S-400 during the Israeli attack. That is a complete joke and never happened. The miscaptioned videos Wael and co are posting on twitter are a joke. They show a completely pitch black landscape with a missile going up and says “S400 launching from Hmeimim”. First of all, it’s pitch black and impossible to determine that is Hmeimim and most likely it isn’t because the lights on the ground appear sparse and Hmeimim is far more populated with much more electricity/lighting visible. This appears to be a sparse isolated s-200 SAA location. 2ndly,… Read more »
Daniel Rich
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@ Dimitriy Koralev,

The ulterior motive is to paint the Russian weaponry as useless and whoever does it, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about accuracy in whatever crap they plaster all over the internet.

Dimitriy Koralev
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Dimitriy Koralev

Unlike U.S. and its silent treachery, Russian MOD always honestly announces engagements and when it has fired this or that missile. MoD has made no announcement about the previous night so it’s safe to say it did not fire anything, not least of which the mighty S400

Whozhear
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@ Dimitriy Koralev,

“Russian MOD always honestly announces engagements and when it has fired this or that missile.”

Not True. Sometimes nothing is said at all. Sometimes a complete snow-job is put out, as has been done for last monday evening’s fiasco.

Igor Bundy
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The Syrian AD team got medals so I think the S200 missile was fired at the French missile..This site is the closest to the Russian site and is what is being touted at the S400 launch.

Dimitriy Koralev
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Eh, I doubt it. And it’s impossible to determine. There was way too much stuff flying in the air and anything we say is just pure conjecture/speculation. We don’t even know what if anything France fired and WHERE precisely its frigate even was. All I know is, an interesting tidbit was that someone claimed the night previous to the attack SAA released statement saying they will be targeting anything up to 100km distance so anyone saying 35km outside of latakia is too far for SAA to have shot is mistaken because S200 has distances of upwards of 200-300km depending on… Read more »
anti_republocrat
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Dimitriy, thanks. I kind of wondered about those reports. Russia has never before lit up its S-400s. I don’t think they will until there’s a full scale multi-vectored attack designed to wipe Russia out of Syria. Lighting up would have been a gift to NATO.

TEP
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Regarding Russia’s ‘appropriate response’ to the zionist downing of their IL-20 EW platform & crew, Israel is currently sending a large delegation to Moscow which includes Major-General Amikam Norkin, Brigadier General Erez Maisel of the International Cooperation Unit and a large number of officers of the Intelligence and Operations directorates of the Israeli air force …..

…. presumably they will be flying into Moscow …..

…. seems to me Russia just got an opportunity for an appropriate response.

Stoney
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And if their plane needs to mysteriously falls out of the sky on their way to Russian, would it be deemed an Act of God?

Mike-Florida
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Dear Ziad, Often I have expressed appreciation for your SyrPer creation – a wonderful gift to dear Syria, and to others supporting their important mission and assisting the quest for truth. This is the first time I comment about your wonder-humor so often included as you pass on sober research. Here’s your latest, about which I could not stop laughing > “The two taken into custody started warbling like nightingales explaining their relationship with American officers at Al-Tanf.” Thanks.

Daniel Rich
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@ Mike-Florida,

Yes. You’re absolutely right.

In my imagination, Ziad delivers those comical gems, with his trademark, dead-pan stare.

Over the past two years, I’ve marveled at countless of Ziad’s verbal somersaults.

It makes it much easier to digest the ‘heavier’ news.

Vanessa Beeley From Syria
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Vanessa Beeley Interview From Syria – Israeli Attacks, Russia’s Response & Idlib’s Coming False Flag

It’s very important to bring you some on-the-ground coverage of what is taking place in Syria — something you will simply not get from the bought-and-paid-for Jewish controlled fake mainstream media.

So joining me today, to discuss recent events, such as yesterday’s Israeli attacks in Syria, and the downed Il-20 Russian plane, and the 15 Russian lives that it took with it, is Vanessa Beeley, broadcasting direct from Syria, with the truth on the ground and her insight on these events.

Daniel Rich
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Daniel Rich

If only you’d stop dumping youtube links on SyrPers, perhaps we might be tempted or fooled into believing you’re not a hasbara troll.

The Greatest Lie EverTold
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The Greatest Lie Ever Told – THE HOLOCAUST – 2015 Documentary HD

The following content has been identified by the JewTube “community” as inappropriate or offensive to Jewish audiences.

BoBa
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Youtube and other MSM/Zionist-Controlled media is trying hard to hide this facts but you can find this video on following link: https://videos.utahgunexchange.com/watch/the-greatest-lie-ever-told-the-holocaust-2015-documentary-hd_3yPLYiwR2Kcvf5i.html

Igor Bundy
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Wholly Krap!!! Is this significant?

HarryG
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HarryG

No.
That’s brotherhood and conservative culture, not perversion.
Human culture has been so corrupted and traditional values so destroyed that debauchery is the first thing anyone thinks of; very unfortunate and very unhealthy.

Sanjin
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Sanjin

is that original Rembrandt van Rijn? 🙂

Whozhear
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Whozhear

Yes, it is significant.

This is Ali Hosseini Khamenei bestowing his blessings on Major General Qasem Soleimani.

There is a war coming you know, and the ultimate goal for the empire is to capture Iran.

Major General Qasem Soleimani will be a leader in Iran’s efforts to defend itself from the empire.

Only Bad Altenatives
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Only Bad Altenatives

The cancer(US) treatment(war) might kill the patient(world). But maybe it is better to take your chances if the alternative is to live in sickness and pain throughout all your life.

maningi
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maningi

Strongly recommending a medical therapy because of suicidal ramble.

anti_republocrat
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anti_republocrat

If you’re not depressed by the state of the world, you’re probably a psychopath. I have to admit that it might be better, for the eternal stream of carbon based genetic material on this planet, if the human species did itself in.

Farty Beans
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Farty Beans

This Level 0 response is not the usual crap.

Igor Bundy
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Igor Bundy

I am surprised no one realized it. You dont give such blessings except to those you dont think will come back. Its like sending your children away to war.

Whozhear
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Whozhear

@ Igor Bundy,

Which is why I said it is significant.

Qasem is usually up near or in the Iranian front lines.

Ali
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Ali

He is probably back home to commemorate Muharram.

Daniel Rich
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FRN is still looking for further confirmation of the following story.

In response to the what Putin has called a ‘tragic incident’ that caused the death of the crew of the radio reconnaissance aircraft and the IL-20 VKS RF warhead, Rusvesna reports that the Russian military has made a major move.

Courtesy Fort Russ [period of 19 – 26 September, 2018]

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Whozhear
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Whozhear

The Russians have made a number of major moves…………..

Establishing a NO-Fly zone for the jews……….

https://syrianperspective.com/2018/09/rats-move-chlorine-gas-to-basanqool-thousands-leaving-idlib-terrorist-families-head-to-turkeys-border.html#comment-273808

The Russians have been approved for 24X7 use and support from Iran’s Hamedan Air Base………

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1041993149193830400

The 60 fighter jets sent last week to Syria will now be split between Syria and Hameda in Iran. This translates to a functioning No-Fly zone over all of Syria now.

The complete and FULL integration of Syrian and Russian AD should be completed over the weekend.

Much more to come.

Farty Beans
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Farty Beans

What’s your interpretation of the American offer for help with the IL debris in the Mediterranian?

Whozhear
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@ Farty Beans,

Only to learn how far advanced the Russians are in electronic surveillance.

Igor Bundy
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Same as their offer to help with the sunken Russian nuclear sub.. To see if they can get their hands on some top secret russian tech..

Farty Beans
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Yes but in case of the sub Russia appeared to be in trouble and in need of help, here it seems clear to me US should know Russia does not need and does not want help. So, what is it, the usual hypocrisy, a political statement or a routine attempt? Note – the no fly zone over the eastern Mediterranian.

Whozhear
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@ Farty Beans,

When the Kursk disaster took place it was known that the Russians had built some very high speed torpedoes. All the US was looking for was what the new torpedoes were all about.

To be blunt, the US does not give a rat’s behind for Russians.

Again, only to learn how far advanced the Russians are in electronic surveillance.

the Thylacine
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the Thylacine

They know. Two generations. The Yanqui buys Russia’s last decades’ GPS scramblers at air shows. But ‘Khibiny’ has them utterly stumped.

Farty Beans
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Farty Beans

Just to make clear, I did not say they cared neither with the sub nor with the IL. I am just saying with the IL the statement makes no sense at all to me bc it seems clear to me even the public knows no help is required and desired.

Ozskeptic
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Ozskeptic

Daniel
Rusvesna reports that the Russian military has made a major move. Effective September 19th, the Russian Federation has announced the closure of a large area of the eastern Mediterranean for the movement of military aircraft and ships until the 26th of September.
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/09/true-unconfirmed-report-russian-navy-has-closed-the-eastern-mediterranean-map/

*Still ‘unconfirmed.’
**Possibly related? – Uncle Sam sending more ships into the ‘Med’ – including new aircraft carrier group.

NeOCON JewOCON CABAL
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Dr. Steve Pieczenik Warns Trump, and Mathis About Invading Syria

anti_republocrat
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anti_republocrat

Over a year old.

Stupid republocrat Jew
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Stupid republocrat Jew

SO!

Truth About Regime Change
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Dr. Steve Pieczenik The Truth About Regime Change

Thucydides
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Thucydides

Good interview!

charles drake
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charles drake

your kosher he is kosher alex jones is kosher
if an ashkanazi tells you the sun is bright the sky is blue on a glorious chem trail free summers day.
double check
check again
recheck and check again for good measure.

khazarians have burnt to many bridges
made 3 buildings 2 many fall into own footprint and danced and filmed the events
never trust a talmoodick

Thucydides
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Thucydides
Watch the interview again. He is giving his version on the events. He was just a pawn in the game, and he also does not tell us everything. If you have a working brain you get some information out of this interview. William Engdahl also states that “corrupted KGB” allowed Yeltsin to be installed and the gold taken from the Russian central bank into the Rothschild family private vaults. So in this interview he clearly states that he contacted KGB member and corrupted him with delivering “computers” as bribe. That is an interesting fact. The other interesting fact is their… Read more »
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Syrian Girl – SYRIA UPDATE: Russia & Ottomans Make A Deal; Russian Plane Shot Down

Daniel Rich
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Russian MoD Refutes Claim Il-20 Hit Due to Failure in Friend/Foe Identification
– Link to Sputnik

Excerpt: “Each state has its own IFF system and Russia does not install its identification systems on armaments exported abroad, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.”

Dimitriy Koralev
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Dimitriy Koralev

Now can idiots finally stop with the “IFF” talk like they know what they’re talking about. IFF had nothing to do with it. SAA had full capability to shoot down russian craft.

Daniel Rich
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Daniel Rich

You calling Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov an idiot.

Nuff said.

Done with you.

Igor Bundy
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Igor Bundy

He called you an idiot DR.. 🙂 NOT Gen. Igor..

Dimitriy Koralev
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Dimitriy Koralev

Yes I’m calling anyone talking about “Hurr durr IFF in place so Syria can’t shoot down Russian plane hurr durr” an idiot becasue Russia just confirmed there was no IFF in place

ziad
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ziad

sorry dan but you have a reading comprehension problem here

ziad
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ziad

correct ,,IFF was MIA ,,,they locked on the kikes but the kikes used the plane as shield,,not decoy but shield ,,how embarrassed will all these consp ppl be when the truth is shown..russians can not hide the wreckage,,all will be revealed ,,had the kikes or frogs been the ones shooting at it the MOD would have said this

Hunter
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Hunter

Did Israel and France have the full capability to shoot down Russian plan?

Tone down your over the top technical bravado and stop calling others idiot.

You are not the only source of information, you idiot.

Dimitriy Koralev
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Dimitriy Koralev

Woah woah we have a big shot here. Take your thumb out of your ass

Hunter
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Hunter

Your “Woah woah” tells where my thumb is. Make effort to take it out of your crack. It might hurt your sore part.

ziad
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ziad

rofl

dofyg
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dofyg

Stunned to read: “Syrian air defense units were not told about the Russian airplane.”Then reading notes about competence. Israelis knew about the Russian plane but Syrian air defence was not told. INCREDIBLE!

Dimitriy Koralev
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Dimitriy Koralev