U.S. COORDINATING WITH SYRIA ON AIR STRIKES, MAYBE?

SyrPer believes strongly that fear of UN condemnation and fallout from an unlawful encroachment into Syrian airspace finally brought the United States to its senses and heralded a marriage of convenience tying Russia, the USA and Syria together in a deliberately ambiguous relationship fraught with speculation.

SANA, like the BBC, is a state-owned and sponsored broadcasting news service.  SANA speaks for the Syrian government whenever the latter wants to make something known.  Through SANA, the Syrian Foreign Ministry made it clear that any trespass in sovereign Syrian territory had to be coordinated with the government.  The U.S. responded that it did not need Syrian acquiescence to attack terrorists on Syrian soil who were threatening the U.S. and its regional allies.  The Russians and Iranians said “no way”, you have to seek either U.N.S.C. resolution authorizing it or the agreement of the government in Damascus, but, they didn’t preface the caveats with any threats.  In Iraq, the government of Haydar Al-‘Abbaadi made it clear that no foreign boots would be allowed on the ground, effectively barring the U.S. from using Iraq as a stage for ground assaults in Syria.

I am reading SANA and looking at RTV today.  No hint of irritation with American actions over Syrian soil (and probably on it) could be detected.  To the contrary, it seems as though the Syrian news services have been instructed to sound up-beat by chronicling the American air strikes with a matter-of-fact style indicating acceptance, or even, encouragement.  I also note that Syrian Air Defense units are not firing on American aircraft.   I think I know why this is happening.

I spoke to Wael yesterday by telephone from a friend’s house after having a radio interview with Mike Cohen from Lansing.  I used a pre-paid card as a courtesy.  The only meaningful indication from Wael was “all was fine”.  There was no sense of impending calamity or anxiety in the very cautious way he normally speaks on the telephone.  So, I had to conclude that Damascus is not vexed  by the American airstrikes.

Take note that no action is being planned by Syria at the U.N.  Syria’s very capable, but excessively urbane, Dr. Bashar Al-Ja’afari, has not broached the subject in any hostile manner.  He was the first to announce that American super-Virago and Permanent Representative, Samantha Power, gave him a “heads-up” many hours before the first strikes began.  Dr. Al-Ja’afari certainly communicated that to his superior, Waleed Al-Mu’allim, in Damascus.  And, then, Mr. Al-Mu’allim received a memo from the U.S. via the Iraqi Foreign Ministry advising of the air strikes.  This runs counter to the American insistence that there was no need to coordinate with Damascus; or that the government in Damascus was illegitimate!

Besides such notorious objects of ridicule like Barbara Walters, Dr. Al-Ja’afari counts Ziad as another acquaintance.  Dr. Al-Ja’afari has sustained the heavy burden of representing Syria at the U.N. with Jobian patience.

 

So far, it appears the United States is targeting ISIS and Nusra only.  No reports have come in of misfired rockets from Raptors which, inconveniently, impeded the SAA in its daily duty to exterminate the Arabian-and-American-supported rats.  We note that Jordan claims to have attacked a group of ISIS terrorists on the Iraqi/Syrian border.  The U.S. is venturing far into Syria all the way to the borders of Turkey and Idlib Province.  All this without even a mew from Damascus.

Russia and Iran are insisting on following the rules.  Russia is demanding a U.N. resolution authorizing force to destroy ISIS, but, the U.S. is going on anyways with its project.  At SyrPer, we believe the U.S. has gotten itself into a legal/tactical dilemma which may end up embarrassing Washington.  If the U.S. takes the matter to the U.N.S.C., the fact that Syria is a sitting member of the organization means that the U.S. will have to sign on to a legal document approved by the same government Obama views as “illegitimate”.  The very mention of the Syrian government in such a document forces the U.S., Britain and France to essentially eat crow….to repudiate previous statements about the legitimacy of the Syrian government.  The ramifications are deadly for the FSA and the mostly irrelevant NACOSROF.  In other words, how can the U.S. train and arm the “moderate opposition” to oust a sitting president of a member state if, at bottom, that president is a legitimate leader of a nation?  The U.S. is in a quandary.

Russia knows all this very well and insists on U.N. procedure.  Russia’s strategy is obvious: if Moscow can force Obama’s regime to abide by U.N. rules, then, the U.S. will have to reassess its former position as to Dr. Assad.  The U.S. will not be so free to irresponsibly blurt out nonsensical (and illegal) declarations that “Assad has no place in Syria’s future” or “Assad must step down”, and such other forms of balderdash.  What I’m saying here is that as long as the U.S. will not address the ISIS issue at the U.N. all statements regarding acceptance of Dr. Assad’s presidency remain fragile and subject to ostracism.  This is cause for worry.

Iran also shares Russia’s insistence on a U.N. role, if for anything, the need to keep the region from exploding.  The significance of a resolution approved by the S.C. goes to constraining the U.S. to a defined role in Syria –  a role which cannot be changed at will.  This means that Iran can draw down its reserves and commit to working with the U.S. in Iraq, for example, without fear that their contribution will be exploited by Washington to invest more assets in the fight against Dr. Assad.  Iran sees no benefit in triggering the Syrian/Iranian Mutual Defense Pact and prefers to contain America’s role with the imposition of legalistic barriers.

SyrPer does not believe that the war against ISIS will take years.  That smells of British.  It also fits the SyrPer hypothesis, which was published some weeks ago,  that the U.S.’s desire to correct the disastrous Neo-Con policies in Iraq is playing out over the bodies of Syrian civilians.  If the U.S. is merely trying to get back from Iraq what it views as its rightful moiety in a country it devastated from top to bottom but whose American-inspired carnage cost America over a trillion dollars with a sundry list of unrealized pipedreams of a thousand airbases, then, it appears we will see no end to the Zionist plan for Iraq – that is – unless the Iraqis figure it out themselves.

Russia is ready, as is Iran.  If the U.S. tightens the leash around the throats of its rabid dogs in the Congress and the draft-dodging Neo-Con traitors, or the inaptly-named think tanks, which, if the truth be told, operate more like septic tanks, and should be called “stink tanks”, we won’t have to worry – Obama will have his legacy of no “boots on the ground” and the American citizenry can enjoy counting down the minutes to the next Super Bowl game.  Dr. Assad and the Syrian people will emerge victorious while the Syrian felons in the opposition will sublimate into the gaseous void of oblivion.  If not, we believe at SyrPer that Russia is prepared to take steps to bring the U.S. before the international body while moving its rooks to Syria for the inevitable checkmate.  ZAF

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Xiansiempre
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My guess is the info given to Al-Ja’afari or Al-Mu’allim assured them that the US would not hit any SAA spots nor interfere with their own operations. This is good however on Friday Obama signed into law $500 million for so-called moderate Syrian rebels for training and arming. FSA may not all be happy about airstrikes but they will definitely benefit from this $500 million and continue fighting for regime change.

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All that means is that America’s de facto strategy in Syria is to arm both sides, to keep the civil war going for as long as possible.

the Thylacine
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The MIC employed that cunning trick in Afghanistan, which worked for 12 years.
(They paid Taliban-aligned warlords millions to allow US convoys in, with which the Taliban financed more war).

Arklight
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E: That trick is so old that it has moss covering it, but it still works.

tommytcg
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I think the Yanks know that the moderate opp. hardly exists as a fighting force, so that may be just a blurb. My take is that the US Military have moved ahead of the CIA, who control IS, and the State Dept who threatened to bomb Syria, and are doing the right thing, having got jerked around for hegemony, oil, pipelines, petrodollars and poppies for decades, and in OIraq recently only being allowed to bomb what the State Dept approved, ie mortar sirte, or an mT truck. . Maybe a min-coup?? .. for isn;t the BBC, Al that Jazz Era,… Read more »
James Padgett
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It is best to neverundestimate the evil, duplicity, stupidity of the U.S. govt and military.

Paul S.
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I think the American government saw while vetting the “moderate Islamic opposition” who pranced around like sheep calling themselves the “FSA” only to retreat back to their true identities, wahhabist jackals. Politically Obama can’t publicly say he was wrong, that there was no “moderate” opposition and fully support Assad, but he can act otherwise. Let’s hope this is the case.

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at best, US will let Syria win the war and only normalize the relationship after Dr.Assad completes his second term, with then they can back a new pro-US president candidate in election…

Anonymous
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This is all about a great israel and saudi arabia. Turkey is also a israel lackey especially Erdogan. Get the muslims to kill each other forever. Create chaos. Israel getting beatn down by Hizbollah in 2006 in Lebanon caused panic in Israel.

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The Great Satan failed with its Contras, to beat the valiant Sandinistas of Nicaragua, so they waited while Daniel Ortega established democracy and was elected president, then mounted the usual color revolution to get their stooge in, exploiting the hardships imposed by their own blockade. These guys rarely have an original, or good, idea.

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They just rubber stamped funding for arms and training in Saudi Arabia for moderate rebels so they haven’t let that dream die by a long shot. I characterized their policy moves in the immortal words of webster tarpley as “unbridled caprice.” They can’t make up their own minds nor get out of eachother’s way. They have no ultimate vision other than a smouldering heap somewhere.. Today they need to repair their PR and get ISIS back on it’s chain. Let’s not forget that until ISIL went full retard and marched towards baghdad they were an ally of the west, pre… Read more »
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Dudley: The fact that the 500 mil has been appropriated does not mean that it will be spent for the stated purpose. We’ve been through this too many times with Afghanistan and Iraq – – the money just disappears. I’ve a hunch that everyone having anything to do with sponsoring or supporting terrorists of any stripe is heartily sick of the whole wretched scheme and that this is hush money for the smart, and hit money, to silence anyone who might prove difficult. Every dog Uncle Sh*theel sends out to hunt just comes back and bites him in the *ss.… Read more »
CHEVI789
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So we go back to my post where i stated that Syria has allowed the U.S to strike but if they target any SAA the jets will come down, and as i have said before, the Russian ship are watching and tracking all jets, basically one good fuck up and they will come down, possibly one jet for every one SAA “accidentally” killed. I also had a feeling that Assad allowed this, it would have been bad for him not to allow the U.S to come in and bomb ISIS, for it would have been all over the news that… Read more »
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Chevi: So far all we know for certain is that the enemy is attacking positions inside Syria, without opposition to this point. The enemy has claimed to have killed ‘X’ number if rats, but I’ve seen no confirmation. We do know that the enemy have killed at least 20 Syrian civilians. We do know that the enemy have destroyed at least one derelict truck, and that the enemy has brought down a number of vacant buildings. With Tomahawk Missiles, basic off the shelf, going for a million each, and ‘combat’ sorties at – – what? – – at least a… Read more »
the Thylacine
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‘smouldering heap’ sounds like a good plan for USSA. At least the rest of the world could breathe easier…

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A very important thing to understand about American culture is that it is a social taboo to admit to being wrong, no matter what. This influences everything from American politics, to business, to normal social interactions.

Bob Birk
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the U.S. Gov. is trying to contain the fire that it Started with these Cannibals, I liken it to a California Forest Fire by using the method of a Control burn, to contain a large fire, only to send it in another direction to burn more Territory. The U.S. Gov. is not fooling anyone, it is the sworn enemy of the Syrian People. But Syria and her Allies are watching closely, oh yes, they are Monitoring the targeted bombing raids at the Northeast borders of Syria, even as we speak, Syria has her Missiles aimed at U.S. Carrier Aircraft, and… Read more »
CHEVI789
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I also very much suspect the Russians are monitoring the signals of all non-Syrian jets to find there weakness and also to jam their radars.

Nini
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We live in a fucked up world!

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haha at last a common sense approach. well said Nini

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I think you could be right in your assessment Ziad, also interesting that the Iranian President Hassan Rouhani is having face to face meetings with world leaders in the next two days at the UN assembly in New York.

dudleydoright911
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I’m sure these guys know, however, that you have to watch these fork tongued devils from the west like a hawk. Just ask gaddafi who was on the phone with Tony BLIAR moments before his death.

Arklight
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Dudley: Right on. ‘He who would sup with the Devil wants a long spoon.’ When dealing with modern Americans, however, it’s better to plead a headache and skip occasion entirely.

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Ziad, the hypothesis sounds plausible and I hope it reflects reality. However, there is a factor not considered, and this factor is Israel. We all know this endless carnage was promoted by them from the beginning and even since the creation of the Zionist state, so I doubt they leave the nobel peace prize to make their moves without consulting them. I agree that there are several things to the conflict and for Americans going to be very difficult to come through this. To Damascus should not be easy to face this new stage of the war, so far it’s… Read more »
Cataro
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I am very sorry Lord!!!, is the emotions. God bless to Syria!!!

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I read on Sana.sy that they have submitted the evidences of foreign invasion to U.N already, but of course UN = nato, so…

CHEVI789
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Cataro, the west controls the media, i noticed on one article on here where there was a link to a speech by Jaafari that there were maybe 5 people there, who would listen? the yanks do not want the world to hear what he nor any pro-Syrian says.

Cataro
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Chevi You’re right , however I think this moment need most people who passionately defend the cause of Syria, and who should be first in line are missing Syrian diplomats . However, we can see that the Brazilian Canthama is much more Syrian than any Syrian diplomat who has played in South America , and I think if many Syrian patriot dying every day is offense the slowly efforts of Syrian diplomatics. I’m sure many patriotic Syrians would be willing to work in a greater diffusion of the Syrian cause also do Ziad, Leith and Mimi . But this effort… Read more »
Victor
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”U.S. COORDINATING WITH SYRIA ON AIR STRIKES, MAYBE?”

Yes!

Bill
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I believe you are very accurate in your comments. I would love to sit down with you and have a game of chess. Two great players would have an awesome game. God bless you and Syria.

Bill
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Forgot to put this great video in. ISIS is good for the jews.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=967

Fatime
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I hardly can belive such stupidity. Syria is being attacked – illegally. It is a blatand violation of the UN-Charta, the International Law. I can not believe the Syrian government has decided to become Obamas patsies. Whats about the civilians targeted and KILLED by the US / arab terrorists in idleb? RT Arabic reported about the bombing of civilians in idleb. This situation is inacceptable. It is disgraceful. I feel humiliated and no-one cares, at least those who should.

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CHEVI789
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Fatme calm down, it is a game that must be played, i understand your frustration but it is like a game of chess that the U.S is losing, have faith sister, some innocents will die and there is nothing we can do about it for now, karma will be a bitch to the invaders and planners.

Anonymous
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exactly this ^

Bob Birk
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Why is no one talking about Kamal al-Labwani
and his goons who are being supported by Israel! The US is running interference for the Zionist rebels.
this area seems to be getting hot! only Hezbullah can take these Bastards out!

CHEVI789
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Bob, the israelis are not a concern right now, they do a bit here and a bit there, they know very well Hezbollah would attack and keep them quite busy for a long time and with many casualties if they came in guns a blazing.

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Chev, I wish your statements regarding the squatters and their ‘apparent’ current disposition were true. I believe that the c_nts have been keeping hush-hush from the get-go, so as not to distract the cannibalists from their assigned roles.
These mothers are as thick into this as the Turks, just a lot less visible. They’re as happy as shit can be, just to see devastation and chaos prevail on their neighbors lands.

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posted by Bob Birk Lavrov: US Applies Double Standards in Combating Terrorism Local Editor LavrovRussian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the United States is applying double standards in combating terrorism and that it hasn’t listened to Russia, calling on the US to fight terrorists consistently everywhere rather than classify them as good or bad terrorists. In an interview given to the Russian Channel 5 prior to his meeting with US State Secretary John Kerry on Wednesday, Lavrov said that combating terrorism requires fighting terrorists everywhere, not classifying them as good because they’re trying to topple a duly elected and… Read more »
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What, US talking to Assad regime? Isreahell is going to choke…wonder why they down a Syrian jet… I am sure Obama’s dogs asked them to back off for now…

Arklight
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Save: Israel seems to do things out of pure meanness, and because they can get away with it. In the same way that the US thinks it doesn’t have to pay attention to anything or anyone else, Israel does the same. In truth, I was a big fan of Israel from independence until the attack on Liberty, then got turned off of Israel, not paying much attention to it at all; now, however, I’m heartily sick of Israel and if it got overrun and driven into the sea, it wouldn’t bother me a bit.

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you were fan of Israhell ? do you even know how the illegal state of Israhell was formed? no?? well , they commited ( mostly eastern european jews ) genocide on the native people of Palestine with the help of the imperialists.

Arklight
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freeman: Yesterday’s news. Ride that beef until your ass falls off, if you want.

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Ziad, your words make a lot of sense indeed. Two days ago I wrote at syrper about the backstage war on going, the bombing us just what they want us to see, PR show, but tne backstage deals are what it seems the real deal, you have described it in details putting the puzzle together, and I am so glad for that, thank you.

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‘Stink tanks’ – I like that, very good

war or destiny
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Only apes of that blog can not believe isis was brought up by the west against USA Us economy does not want a risk against any european made suprise

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McCain should be crying now, all his friends are dead right now. Obama its again feeding the American War machine. Destroying the terrorist they created. Just like Noriega, Osama, Saddam.

tommytcg
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..Saddam a terrorist they created. Bin watching CNN or fuxx nooz, snorting fluoride?

Alex
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Jen Paski told Shepard Smith of Fox a few minutes ago that Assad does not fight ISIS only the Syrian freedom fighters attack ISIS. This is her premise that if the US attacks ISIS it is not helping Assad while Smith was trying to force her to admit Ergo we are helping only the freedom fighters. She is either deluded or deceitful.

Cataro
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Psaki and her jokes “for a better world”

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“She is either deluded or deceitful”.

I vote for deluded. The practice of deceit requires the exercise of several million brain cells at least. This Paski (Psaki?/pesky) woman has yet to demonstrate that the number of brain cells she possesses extends into double figures.

Alex
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Excellent summary Ziad. It brings back memories of world history in school in N. Carolina I remember Turkey was called “the sick man of Europe” and another saying was when Turkey sneezed, Europe caught cold.” That of course was

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Yes, but Turkey is no more European than Azerbaijan. The tired old line that a tiny part of the territory of that the state of Turkey occupies is in continental Europe is used mostly by weaselly, “liberals” in the West pushing their failed creed of multiculturalism and on the other side of the coin, globalists and NATO shills pushing for Turkey to be imposed on the E.U superstate. It’s also worth remembering that the part of Turkey geographically located in Europe was conquered in one of the Turks many jihads against Christendom in Europe.

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1) Turkey defined itself European at the time of Ataturk.
2) In history (and culture) it was the most important part of European development until the Roman Empire – the ancient Greek.
3) All of Turkey was conquered in many jihads from Middle Eastern Christendom (orthodox, Konstantinopel = Istanbul).
4) Most of European conservative leaders oppose membership of Turkey.
5) EU is not a superstate but a Union of willful members. It is about economy and fails miserably in the field of politics.
6) Turkey is a NATO member already.
7) EU is not based on geography.

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Ziad, do you think that Obama is genuinely trying to clean up the Zio/Turkish/GCC ISIS/Nusra mess that was created in Syria and at this time is actually acting in a manner contrary to the wishes of the Neocons and other assorted war mongers in Washington? This would imply that Obama had no control over the buildup of ISIS and other fanatics in Syria (except for FSA). Naive?

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That could be possible. But i think they will switch somewhere during the 3 year bombing campaign from isis to syria.
Strong lobbies within in the military industrial complex want to arm the american army and the “rebels”. It is a never ending war.

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Tony: US presidents are (take your pick) empty suits or puppets. There’s always someone around to whisper in his ear, ‘We got Lincoln, McKinley and Kennedy – – we can get you too. Piece of cake.’ Nobody ever asks why there was no Secret Service agent stationed at the door to the Presidential box a Ford’s Theater when the banksters had a terminal case of the ass for the man. Anyway, if Obama wants to live to retire, he’ll do as he’s told, and that’s not a guarantee.

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Arklight, agree. Obama is a puppet. A figurehead. But whose puppet?!?! That’s the $64,000 question. Throughout history, there have been conflicting interests among the ruling elite that have put the presidency in a compromised situation. And right now, it seems that the West is divided into at least two different camps. On the one hand, we have the international bankers (Rothchild’s, etc) who have bankrolled every war and revolution for the last 200 years or so. And on the other, we have the American military industrial complex, which has always worked collaboratively with the bankers in an equitable partnership, especially… Read more »
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Tony: The turds at the top of the pile seem to be hereditary banksters – – Rothschilds, and such like. Money greases the wheels of almost every endevour, and they’ve got the dough.

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Tony, i will tell you one thing, the zionists are great at blackmail, now everyone has a skeleton or fetish, imagine if that high ranking person did one or the other and was caught, he’d be the servant of the zionists for a long time, hence why phone hacking for the zionists is number one priority and they are good at it.

Anyone notice how the ex-presidents start to talk sane when they get out of office and retire? the ones still in power still tow the zionist line? .

Nobilitatis
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BRICS:
Brasil
Russia
India
China
South Africa
(Not: Iran.)

Thorium Wulf
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Maybe the verbatim conversation of Barry O and King Abdullah of Jordan in the previous years at Sunnylands resort /golf course would answer your question. O is in the know, not all of it though

CHEVI789
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Tony, i believe that obomber is not genuine, this does not fit the washington M.O, they will do this to make it look like they are fighting a just war and anyone attacking them is an enemy, let the Russians deal with this in the U.N so if they attack any SAA unit the yanks will pay.

Anonymous
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Does anyone recognize that Dr. Al-Ja’afari looks like the brother of Sean Connery (James Bond 007).

Hope he also got a licence to kill…and use it for sending snackbarians to hell!

Anonymous
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Easy bro, his daughter Sheherazed is really gorgeous!!

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Ziad Fadel, stop this sort of what I would call “mental masturbation about the USA as a unitary entity”. It is not and it is the same with what is called “ISIS”, or whatever, in the media. The situation seems to be quite simple from the outset and I am repeating from this point on more or less what you just said in your post anyway: If the Obama adminstration wants to ally with Syria, which is currently in the lead in this fight of the international community against terrorism and its inhuman conduct in international affairs, everything is and… Read more »
radioyaran
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What is this fuss about building a “moderate” rebel army with 5000 soldiers a year?
In the same time the SAA and NDF will recruit and train at least 10000 soldiers.

Anonymous
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Per Syria Now, A Russian aircraft carrier and three destroyers have just arrive to Tartous port:

حاملة طائرات روسية و3 مدمرات وصلت الى ميناء طرطوس قبل قليل

Anonymous
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Good news. I hope it is true. I hope they have broght supplies and troops to help Syria.

Anonymous
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z fyi -in australian slang the phrase “Septic Tank” = an american (rhymes with yank)

Arklight
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Anon: Ho-hum.

Alex
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Assad simply has nothing to loose with the Americans attacking ISIS as long as they do not stray outside of ISIS held areas. As great as the SAA is, it cannot be everywhere and right now Dr. Assad is President of only two thirds of his country or less, as hard as this is to admit.. .

Anonymous
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Absurd! They are targeting mostly empty buildings.
The real goal s to map the Syrian air defenses – at least the radars which are not kept in the passive mode –

CHEVI789
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It works both ways Anon, much like firing tracer bullets, sure you can see where you’re firing but the enemy can see where you are firing from, in aircraft you can see what frequency the radars are emitting and jam their radars at a later date, you can track their radio communications and crack the encryption code, you can try different radar frequencies to see which one better detects the F-22 etc, i can go on and on, so it’s not all so bad, in fact it is better to do it whilst not fighting with them.

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wouldn’t it be cool if America & Syria could form normal beneficial relations in the future

Anonymous
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For those who still doubt, during the Iraq war in 2003 there were up to 1,000 air strikes per day, 29,200 altogether. Now we have a “campaign” with 3 or 4 strikes per day on buildings that were already evacuated days before.. The real goal is to map the Syrian air defenses – at least the radars which are not kept in the passive mode -by getting closer and closer to the Syrian positions after each raid

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interesting article, but as for now it seems the attacks are purely symbolic and don’t seem to decimate Daesh. Although the attacks seem to be in favour of the Syrian people, it is being coordinated by the the enemies of the Syrian people and those regimes cannot be trusted for a second . It could very well be that these airstrikes will be a warm up for a next phase and that would be the destruction of the Syrian government wich would be hard to achieve. Also it could be a warm up for foreign boots on Syrian soil, or… Read more »
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freeman: Yeah, it looks like the enemy air strikes are largely cosmetic; it’s a given that if the air strikes don’t do the job (and they won’t, of course), the land forces will be required – – the same old sad performance from the one trick pony. As for Brezinski, I’d rather expect him to change tack from time to time, but his eye is never off the prize. That S.O.B. is already older than dirt, so why doesn’t he just croak?

sandmann
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Warum das übel nicht an der Wurzel packen und den Abschaum direkt da bombardieren wo sie herkommen? Türkei, Katar, Saudi scheiss…..und die Herrscher Ratten auch.

Árni Árnason
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The USA is Just doing what it did in Libya. They are just bombing gangs that betrayed them and are not following orders. These ISIS thugs get payed and their masters expect 100% obedience. There is no other logical reason for the US to bomb these guys that they are supporting on the ground with their CIA agents and paying for. They did similar operations in Libya. And I think Assad doesn’t care if USA bombs its own thugs, Syrian army has nothing to lose from that. But he can still use this politically and I think that is what… Read more »
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but what fact is , and i spoke of this 2 years ago on liveleak, that Daesh and the other European Jihadi’s are part of a bigger plan and they will stage attacks within europe that will diminish human/privacy rights even further. Also in the Netherlands they are talking about changing certain laws wich would mean if you have a certain ideology you can be prosecuted, of course this would be great if only the snackbarians would be prosecuted, but in the future this will mean that they can prosecute someone with different opinions. The words of a dutch Nusrat… Read more »
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freeman: I believe you’re right.

Frank Reitzenstein
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Until someone points out my error, I still think that young Hafez al Assad’s boast to sink the entire US fleet is a credible and real possibility in terms of Russian hardware now in Syria’s possession. http://www.franz-schubert.com/hafez-al-assad.html Which is the real reason for Washington’s relative respect of Syrian sovereignty. Add to that the fact that the second leg of the Syrian war (ie Assad’s turning around the situation on the ground) was accompanied by an admission even in the mainstream media that the West has a huge Al Qaida problem and blowback. So The US involvement, without ulterior motives may… Read more »
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Frank: IS’ advance on Erbil was the occasion (excuse) for the initial US airstrikes in Iraq, because Erbil is the ‘oil hub’ for northern Iraa and is home to Chevron-Texaco, Exxon-Mobil, BP and other, lesser, lights. At the time of the first carrier plane strike ISIS/ISIL was about a 30 minute march away from Erbil. I guess the oil weenies got their knickers in a twist and started crying for momma. To the elite’s way of thinking, everyone and every thing is dispensable – – except themselves. In the new, reduced population, Globalista planet with a total population of about… Read more »
Frank Reitzenstein
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You don’t really believe that they will succeed at depopulation?

Nobilitatis
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They created IS, funded it and armed it. They could just as easily stop arming and funding it, arrest supporters etc. and there is also no need to attack their creation in Syria. They could get all of them in Turkey, the fighters are not coming via Bagdad Airport. It is a show only.
I think that is all about the Kurds – “winning hearts and minds”.

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I doubt USAF is likely to strike Turkish allie IS at the Syrian border.
As IS forces the coward YPG out of the villages, SAA is confronted with even more territories to mop-up!
You can see their amateurish but still gainfull advance to the frontier and the miserable installment of resistance forces from YPG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qRLPs1L22cE

So the task is prolongueing and the enemy is sitting it out, watching and regrouping.
This turns out to be the real dilemma.
Fast success for SAA is impossible, so the military has to be stabled and enforced, quickly.

Bestest

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Arklight
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Captain: If you’re so brave, why don’t you gear up, join up with the Kurds, and show ’em how to buckle?

Anonymous
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I miss the days of Hafez Al Asad,he would’ve wiped those bastards seven years ago.too bad.You have a gov. in syria who wants the evil empire approval.I take our Hero stand,the SAYYED, We should not cooperate with the evil ones even to kill isis and ,whats that new shit now oh,khorasan.Ha ha ha .I do not

Anonymous
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This slave of Israel is hilarious!

Flanders
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Folks, you can’t bring down IS by bombing them. They will just move their command structure and the rest even more underground then today. That means boots on the ground. You already have 2,000 US ‘military advisors in Iraq and 40,000 mercenaries on stand by to move in. Syria isn’t going to be different.

Now, can the SAA profit from all this IS bombing and make some serious gains? They better do it or the foreign boots on the ground will be, step by step, all over the place.

Anonymous
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My conclusions /Observations.. 1) It is clear that at very least the Syrian Government is giving an opportunity to Obama to reverse the damage he have done to Syria , just an opportunity to see what happens.. 2)Syria have nothing much to lose with air strikes in north east of Syria… specially because Obama notified Syrian government of their intentions.. means recognition of Assad behind the scenes..as President.. 3) Russia and IRAN pushing for an UN resolution for guarantees that Obama cannot change its plans from ISIS to Assad. Other things however.. 4)The flyover over northern Syria alone will not… Read more »
Arklight
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Anon: interesting post. Thanks for the background info.

Raymond Dillon
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You must be Russian, you know a lot about Russian weapomry.
Good write up , .
I might as well throw in the fact that the Serbs shot down a US stealth bomber using a 1960’s era SAM 7 i believe with just a little “modification” to the SAM’s.

CHEVI789
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Thanks Anon, you literally just gave part of the tactics away, joking, the yanks know this anyways, they are old but good tactics and it is confusing for them.

Anonymous
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There is an ongoing debate on whether Syria ever got the S-300s. The story in the news recently is Russia cancelled the contract. I hope it is not true. So did they get them or not? If Russia does not back Syria 100%, they will lose the port of Tartous. The F-22 is highly overrated as is stealth. All long wave radar going back to RAF WW2 radar can see stealth and Russia had had long wave for decades. Why were the YF-117s all destroyed after one was lost in Serbia. They claimed it was due to some arms treaty.… Read more »
CHEVI789
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All radars can be re-tuned, some are not fixed frequencies but are limited to a range, but it’s usually better to use an older system with that frequency, but did you also know there are units which emit a laser and these can be used when your jets are not flying around, they light up a target and the missile can track it evading any anti-jamming proof items you have.

Canthama
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Anon, nice job, much appreciated, we need more of your insights at Syrper, pls post more.

Alex
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I hope SANA is accurate because today, Wednesday, the SAA cleaned up the streets with these terrorists. If you read their accomplishments in one day, you wonder how there could be any large terrorist groups left. I tallied about 50 vehicles destroyed alone-just today. Again, no mention of the Americans..

R
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CHECK THIS——————–Syrian Arab Army
24 minutes ago
US strikes hit al-Toqaji site, an ISIS training camp.

The site was an oil placment, and now used by ISIS to train its members, right after the attack SyAF Sukhoi attack bombers conducted two airstrikes using thermobarric bombs, SyAF intelligence source estimated over 80 terrorists killed.

Syrian Arab Army———————————–

Looks like a 1-2 punch to me.SAAF DID THE CLEANUP. TO PRECISE TO BE A COINCIDENCE.

Alex
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I hope you are right. That would be a wet dream if true.

ameer
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It is clear. The US told the Syrian Government (which it believes lost the ‘legitimacy it once had’ – but not illegitimate) something like the following: “We need to use the air space for the hours of so and so so please advise the SAA and SAAF not to engage us as we are running missions today in so and so areas. Our cruise missiles and drones should not hinder your operations, and the US air force will use jets for a short window of time near the borders where you do not operate.” I’m sure Dr. Ja3fari said something… Read more »
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The USA has obviously started to bomb syrian infrastructure. Even if there is coordination both sides couldn’t openly stick to it. The Obama administration cannot present President Assad as an ally in their war and Syria cannot publicly accept the USA’ narrativ of different types of terrorists, supporting the one and opposing the other. This is the core and ground of ZIad’s question about coordinated airstrikes.

Flanders
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All said and done, what do these air strikes mean? They are not going to bring IS down. I suspect they want to provoke IS into another 9/11 after which all opposition to boots on the ground will be gone and a large scale invasion of both Iraq and Syria will be a fact.

Shinaydeen
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Possibly. On the other hand, none of the serious powers carrying out airstrikes are claiming that they will be enough to bring ISIS down. They all agree that a whole range of other measures and attack tactics will be needed.

Sometimes people say what they mean. Maybe this is one of those times.

Thorium Wulf
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LOL, ask Slobodan Milosevic if ”boots on the ground” was necessary for his being deposed of Yugoslavian rule or subsequent assassination at the Hague

Flanders
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Yugoslavia is a whole different story. Key words: etnic and culture. Islamic world isn’t european.

Arklight
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Thorium: Slobo was beating the bastards in court, however kangaroo it might have been, so of course he had to be murdered.

Boiler Room
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So there is coordination regarding aistrikes between the two sides for sure. The interesting question is whether there is talk, at least the beginning of some sort of dialogue, about “coordination” on a political level to solve this crisis,

Anonymous
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There are a lot of people here foolishly believing that the US State Dept wants to help Syria. See what they have done to the Ukraine and airliners. I am hopeful that Russia, China and even Iran are in the background backing up Syria in the strongest possible terms.

Does Russia really have 4 naval ships in Syrian ports?

Anonymous
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I don’t think people here foolishly believing that. Obivously there is little or no coordination. But what do you suggest otherwise? Retaliation to US forces isn’t an viable option. Let them hit their imaginary targets, and continue our campaign on the ground.

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Hey, one could think that the US is cleaning up its errors and bombs their “freedom fighters” away. But hey, who is going to attack Iran? Arnt they needed to attack Russia from the south? What about China? They are a nice thread to Egypt and other nations, if you do not play ball the beheaders are coming to a cinema near you. They will throw all that away? I guess no, they will not. They will just bomb a few low level idiots and real rebels groups and let their best fighters escape and hide in Turkey, Jordan or… Read more »
Anonymous
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That´s why all newspapers around the world reported about the comming attacks BEFORE they attacked them. They wanted to make sure that no real important puppet get harmed. And now we are waiting for the next false flag chemical attack to bomb the syrian government.

nabila
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Exactly, that seems to be the plan: USrahell makes it look like they would destroy ISIS in the same time they prepare ISIS-thugs and other arab. mercendaries to “transform” themselves into FSA. So in the end FSA will be in all this places were ISIS has been before. This is why Dempsy made it clear that one aim is to keep the north-eastern regions in “rebel”-hands.So might be withness in the MSM a miracolous shift from ISIS helt areas into “moderate rebel” helt areas without so much change on the ground. In say it in a nutshell: ISIS are the… Read more »
M
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looks like the US are trying to replace “ISIS” with “USIS”. LOL

Cataro
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Jason
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Many of you are missing the point. The air intrusions on the part of the Americans in eastern and northern Syria are laying the foundation of a permanent air corridor for the Americans where later on they will not allow Syrian planes to enter, and where America will become ‘responsible’ to protect the people’s of eastern and northern Syria, thus exceeding its current mandate of ‘fighting terrorism’. All of this is designed for mission creep where the final goal is the removal of the Assad regime through biting off chunks of Syria little by little. Once again people need to… Read more »
Arklight
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Jason: Yeah. They’ve pulled this lame stunt so many times – – and still think they fool anybody.

freeman
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I agree Jason, i was in doubt about if Daesh was a deathsquad gone rogue , but it seems to be that their masters still are the same as the time it was created and they serves the zionist agenda. If the Syrian government is thinking that the Americans are intended to remove Daesh they are dead wrong. These strikes are intended to remove the Syrian government and it will show how within 2/3 years. It is part of the first phase. Next you will see demonstrations across the arabworld about how evil the american airstrikes are and this will… Read more »
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Jason – agreed, agreed, agreed! Tony Cartalluci (land destroyer) has opined the same, logical conclusion. WHY is this so hard for some people to see? These buffer areas will be designated ‘safe zones’ for the thousands of refugees fleeing the fighting, while they are really for creating no-fly zones allowing build up of the next waves of ape-terror from Turkey. The long-term objective is to grind down and impoverish Syria with never-ending war in the hope that the Syrian people will eventually overthrow Assad. It’s hard to believe that Syria isn’t aware also, but what can they do about this,… Read more »
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Hi Ziad, can you confirm if the United Snakes airstrikes have actually killed any of their own funded terrorists rats? The news I am getting is this….

US Bombed ‘Empty Buildings’ in Airstrikes on ISIL in Syria

“15-20 days before the airstrikes, (ISIL) buildings were evacuated, and fighters then mixed in with the local population”.

http://21stcenturywire.com/tag/isis/

Anonymous
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This news is strange:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-led-air-strikes-resume-syria-oil-fields-210146984.html
I’m not sure if they were ever able to operate the refineries. I know that they export oil to turkey by trucks, but last year when they seized the zone and the refineries they executed many engineers who where not sunni muslins. and others fled away.
Anyone knows?

Jared
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It was an ISIS training camp located at the refinery site that was bombed.

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